Need-to-knows when buying REO

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Q: My husband and I are in the process of buying a foreclosure property, as is. The property is not in bad shape, but it is missing the air-conditioning units and a few other items. The bank did sell us the property at a low price, but I am afraid of the hidden things that I don't see. Can I make them give me a disclosure statement? Do they even have one?

A: You've clearly stumbled across one fundamental truth of buying an REO: You're not buying from a person! You're buying from an organization -- an institution -- a corporation. This has numerous, different implications at every point of the buying process. The decision-makers have totally different motivations and guidelines than individual sellers do.

Mindset Management

Picture yourself as David vs. the Bank's Goliath. Go into your deal understanding that all the contracts will be written up as favorably toward your opponent as possible without being declared unconscionable. Kick off your escrow with the understanding that the bank's own boilerplate counteroffer and addenda will be bulletproof in changing all of your state's standard real estate practices to go against your interests and protect the bank, and making sure that you could never successfully sue the bank should a surprise problem later arise with the property. And walk in with your eyes wide open to the fact that your escrow might be bumpy.

But also go in knowing it could very well be worth it to get (a) your dream home (or at least your pre-dream-home home), (b) a great price, or (c) a house at all on today's market -- depending on your price range, and where you're at geographically, you might find that many or most of the homes for sale in your market are REOs so, as my Mom used to tell me about my little brother, you might just as well learn to live with them!

Don't let all this deter you from buying an REO. Instead, let it inform your perspective and your action plan. Instead of relying on the bank to give you as much information as possible, like you would expect from an individual seller, rely on yourself and your team of inspectors to obtain all the information possible to uncover before you remove your contingencies or waive your objections.

Need-to-Knows

One more need-to-know about doing the deal with the bank -- the bank never lived there! And, for that matter, the bank's break-up, so to speak, with the folks who did live there (the former owners) was very likely, shall we say, less than warm-and-fuzzy. So the bank has absolutely no information whatsoever about the condition or history of the property. Many states totally exempt banks from making substantive disclosures about the properties they own and sell. Any forms you can get from the bank or their listing agent are likely to be liberally sprinkled with "N/A" or "Unknown" in every blank that calls for the information you care about. ...CONTINUED

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Submitted by Tom Lindemann on May 7, 2009 - 3:41am.

This is a very good answer - basically buying an REO is "buyer beware" - do your inspections and pay attention to them.

Most investors understand this process, however many owner occupieds do not - they think the bank will respond as a normal seller would as far as disclosures and repairs. How can the bank or its agent know any more than what a diligent walk through and inspection reports will show? And then any repairs are likely to be limited to Section 1 and a maximum dollar amount.

 
Submitted by Paul Howard on May 7, 2009 - 3:46am.

Good advice but one point:
Home inspections: In most cases you will be able to have the utilities turned on (at your own expense). Do it. Have a full home inspection done by a qualified inspector (I recommend a member of ASHI ( http://www.ashi.com ))

Do this even if you can't get the utilities turned on. Make sure the owner (bank) gets a copy of the report then use it to try to get additional concessions - expect credits or a sales price adjustment - not repairs. Once the bank has that report they can no longer claim they don't have information and will have to provide it to the next buyer if you walk away. You might even consider sending it by registered mail directly to them in addition to whatever your agent does with it - just so you have some evidence that they received it. Keep copies of all communications regarding the negotiations.

If your deal falls apart due to the owner (lender) not being willing to negotiate regarding deficiencies and you think they are not going to disclose it to the next buyer - keep track of the house and after it sells - present the new owner with a copy of your report. If the owner (REO lender) failed to disclose what they had the new owner might be able to make good use of that information.

Paul Howard, Broker
www.NJHomeBuyer.com Realty
Cherry Hill NJ 08002
MEMBER: NAEBA National Association of Exclusive Buyer Agents
http://www.naeba.org

 
Submitted by Rob Aubrey on May 7, 2009 - 4:16am.

The phrase I always tell my clients is "Price or Terms" pick one. If you get the favorable price it is usually at the expense of terms. If you want favorable terms you will pay more.

So which one is more important to you?

 
Submitted by Robert A. Hulme on May 7, 2009 - 4:35am.

Great Information, I am expecting an approval on a Bank Owned property this morning. Hopefully the inspection we have will be favorable.

Thank you Tara Nicholle,

Robert A. Hulme
Realtor, GRI, e-PRO
Prudential Utah Real Estate
Loan Officer
Mortgage Xpress
www.AlpineRealEstate.us
www.SpringvilleRealEstate.us

 
Submitted by Mack Perry on May 7, 2009 - 4:36am.

Tara, Thanks for sharing your well though out answer. I am being interviewed this morning by our local paper for an article they are doing on what to watch out for when buying a foreclosure.
William M "Mack" Perry
http://www.mackperryhomes.com

 
Submitted by Ryan Martin on May 7, 2009 - 1:38pm.

You are not joking Tara. Buyer's need to wear welding gloves when they are negotiating with banks. They are going to be extremely one sided in everything they do. Also, be advised that most bank write a clause into the contract where they can back out for any reason at any time, while you cannot.

While there are some great deals to be had in the bank owned real estate market, you need to proceed with extreme caution.

Ryan Martin ~ Realtor®, e-Pro®
Website: http://ryanmartinrealestate.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/RyanRE

 
Submitted by Walter Boomsma on May 7, 2009 - 2:05pm.

Sorry to say... this article barely scratches the surface of the subject. It is impossible to over-state the hazards of purchasing REO property.

It is also impossible to over-state the ignorance and arrogance of the lenders selling these properties... fines for delayed closings when the lender is responsible for the delays... lenders failing to return paperwork... not honoring expiration dates... the list goes on and on...

Inexperienced buyers need an army of assistants (attorneys, a GOOD realtor, etc. etc.) to deal with these transactions.