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If someone is selling by owner is he not interested in help in selling? If the person who approaches him is worthless, then yes it would seem intrusive. If the person seems helpful, then it isnt seen as intrusive. I had a person show up at my door. Very intrusive. But what she was selling as it was perceived by me was not intrusive and seen as very useful.She turned me around. Selling is selling is selling. When it is done well it isnt selling. When it is blundered it is intrusive, spammy, and scammy. Otherwise it should say order taker on a real estate license.
This is what drives me nuts Danny...spam tactics. What the hell does spam have to do with this? My posts here are not so much about craiglist getting datamined. It is understanding the issue. Spamming is email, or in SEO- stuffing keywords into a page as an example. This is a datamining issue and TOS issue. And it is more common than most would want to admit. My point was why do so many people want to abide by situational ethics, if indeed this is even an ethics issue at all. since we are talking about a machine. Is it not OK for Riel to use a machine to grab information off of his own software for his own use and gain like it is for Goolge to Grab it for for millions of others pleasure so they can make a profit for their thousands of shareholders? Why is it OK for G to do this? Put another way we all profit from datamining that Google does on our behalf.. As well as their own. So whats the dif other than you or I not benefitting from Riels datamining?
Scraping Datamining Crawling All words that have similar meaning and various degrees of emaotionality tied to them depending on curiously who is doing it. Google? Scrape me baby till it bleeds. John Lunch Bucket's software? Stay the hell out you criminal! Seems someone more famous than Riel has already scraped the hell out of Craigslist http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&q=site%3Acraigslist.org&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g9 Lets be intellectually honest here when we all get a nice chuck of income from the biggest dataminer/scraper in the world....Google. But But thats not scraping. Thats a search engine. Is this guys software not a search engine except for his desktop? Whats the dif? I wonder if in the CL TOS there is an exclusion for search engines. And the reality is that this guys software probably queries a search engine to find whatever it finds anyway. Just some thoughts and an attempt to insert intellectual honesty or at least another way of looking at this discussion. TiM o'KeEfE Spider Juice Technologies http://www.spiderworkz.com 310 533 9145
