NAR steps into social media
Realtor trade group seeks social media manager
By Glenn Roberts Jr., Tuesday, October 21, 2008.A National Association of Realtors job posting for a "social media manager" has touched off a maelstrom of online commentary at several real estate blog sites.
Depending on whose comment you read, the new position should either be applauded as a move to bring the association up to speed in engaging in online industry conversations; raise questions about whether the motives are to squelch Realtors' digital dialog rather than promote it; or be condemned for arriving at the Web 2.0 party too late.
Among the job duties, according to the post at Monster.com: "Monitor real estate industry and related social media, facilitate NAR's participation in external blogs and social media," and "maintain, evolve and enforce NAR's social media policies and guidelines."
The individual will also train association staff and its elected leaders on how to write for blogs and other social media, monitor the association's existing blogs while building new ones as needed, and measure the effectiveness of the group's social media efforts.
The trade group has been dabbling in online media, including online video, and has launched several blog sites. The group has used Twitter, a quick online messaging tool, as a way to communicate with attendees and other members during conferences.
"We've put our toe in the water," said Hilary Marsh, managing director for Realtor.org, the trade group's Web site for members. Marsh will serve as the supervisor for the social media manager.
"We have blogs, several different things happening on Twitter. We've been 'Twittering' at our major meetings for more than a year. We've been trying out blogs for several years already, and we have podcasts."
She added, "We have adopted individual components of Web 2.0 contemporary online stuff for quite a long time, but this (new position) will help our efforts gel."
The social media manager will "have a pretty big charge" in monitoring both incoming and outgoing conversations.
The individual is "supposed to listen -- to find out who's talking about NAR, talking about our issues, talking about the real estate industry," and to find ways "in which we participate" and have a presence in the online conversation, Marsh said.
It will not be a "rogue job," Marsh noted, though she also said the social media manager position isn't about "spin."
"The person's going to make sure that our information is out there accurately and thoroughly. We want to join those conversations ... so that it's not a question of spin at all. It's a question of presence and participation."
Jay Thompson, a Phoenix real estate broker, said in a blog post at the Agent Genius Web site that he is pleased the association is pursuing the new position.
"I say kudos to the leadership team at NAR for at least recognizing the importance of establishing a social media position," he stated. "The NAR seems to be trying to 'get it.' That alone is a significant step forward." He asked readers of the blog to weigh in on whether the group was "simply playing lip service."
Several dozen commenters have responded to date on Thompson's post. Benn Rosales, founder of the Agent Genius blog site, which has more than 30 regular contributors, stated in a comment that a hurdle for the new hire is understanding the perceptions that will come with the position. Some other commenters, for example, expressed reservations about the purpose and intent of the position and whether the new hire would seek to filter online conversations.
Marsh said the association is not "envisioning setting guidelines for every member out there" on how to engage in social media conversations. "We are figuring (out) what's the best way to do the connection" with others in the social media space, she said, and evaluating how to create a better "feedback loop" for members.
With 1.2 million members, Marsh said it is a big proposition in building new tools to reach all of them and to gather their feedback.
"As we evolve our online presence, certainly it will involve more participatory media elements. They're evolving under our feet," she said.
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Submitted by Jay Seville -- Arlington virginia condos on October 22, 2008 - 4:20am.
"maintain, evolve and enforce NAR's social media policies and guidelines." Notice the word "enforce"? Now read below.
I think that says it all coupled with their silence on the SAR issue in which a forward thinking realtor built up a website w/ the term MLS in his domain only to have the Sarasota Association of Realtors come after him as members were jealous of all the business he was procuring. The SAR was able to do this because of NAR's article 12 giving local association the right to forbid the use of reference to a regional mls in the domain names.
the realtor with the blessings of NAR in their REALTOR magazine, etc. has now been pounded and stripped of a website that he has spent $10,000 and years establishing by the SAR and their formal complaint to ICANN. How can the NAR stand silently by and let this type of injustice go on???
"maintain, evolve and enforce NAR's social media policies and guidelines."
This statement of the NAR says it clear enough when coupled with their silence on the Article 12 issue and Marc Rasmussen's website being stolen by his association who spent no money on it or hundreds of hours of time building it.
The NAR wants a social media mngr to police the net and make sure its members fall into line with them, are not too divisive and controversial in their topics, etc.
Until the NAR makes right their Article 12 mess and brings some justice to Marc Rasmussen in his struggle against close minded 20 century agents jealous of his being on the cutting edge of real estate 2.0 the NAR will not have much credibility....
I've written VP REALTOR magazine and have not received a response. I am having a hard time finding the right people to write about this subject.
Perhaps a sweeping withholding of NAR dues by its members would get their attention. IF their goal is to enforce what they think is appropriate in social media then one can only assume they are of nefarious intent with their silence in protecting Marc Rasmussen. Or they are cowards or they do not give a darn about right and wrong. How can you not speak out at the national level about one of your members being persecuted for pursuing excellence and providing the best tools to consumers? Isn't that what realtors are supposed to do?
If anybody cares about the truth here: http://www.realestatewebmasters.com/blogs/morgan-carey/6350/show/
Submitted by Catherine Read on October 22, 2008 - 4:46am.
Social media is a brave new world of communication, community building and marketing. The handbook hasn't really been written for it. To some extent it will be an evolutionary process. It's reasonable to expect there will be disagreements and conflicts, and challenges to long held beliefs will help to shape the future of social media technologies. I applaud the NAR for recognizing they need to address this and for getting into the game.
Catherine S. Read
Creative Read, Inc.
Submitted by Lou Lynch on October 22, 2008 - 5:59am.
It sounds like damage control to me. I wonder if this is something they planned to do or if it is in direct response to the all the negative social media they are getting as of late.
The SAR issue may seem small to them but the online real estate community is in an uproar. What they are doing to Marc Rasmussen is wrong and defies the very principle they claim to be built on.
Shame on NAR and SAR.
They better hire an army of Social Media Managers
Providing top-notch Ulster County Real Estate services for home buyers and sellers.
Submitted by REALonomics .net on October 22, 2008 - 6:17am.
Jay Seville's comment is dead-on when he says, "Notice the word "enforce"?" A compliment to you Jay from those of us at www.REALonomics.net.
NAR is having a difficult time grappling with the notion of an unleashed Realtor® loose in cyberspace that it (NAR) cannot control, charge dues to and create a designation for in order to further monetize and justify its existence.
NAR, rather than endorsing the $700 billion bailout and then trying to get all of us to climb on their socialization train, should have been and ought to be re-tooling our industry's business model in the eyes of the consumer.
It's innovation and transparency in local markets we need, not another layer of bureaucracy.
How would you like to be NAR's Social Media Manager, running around the country, policing blogs, holding workshops and telling people what they can and can't say as Realtors®.
YIKES!
www.REALonomics.net
Submitted by Derek Overbey on October 22, 2008 - 9:40am.
I do applaud NAR for putting a toe into the social media water but I will say it will be a challenge to say the least.
One person trying to keep up with 1.2 million members will be a daunting task. And after some of the commentary I've seen on Twitter over the last couple of weeks, I don't know if everyone is going to welcome this new NAR Social Media Manager with open arms. But at least they are making the effort.
Derek Overbey
Senior Director of Partnership Strategy – Roost.com
Web - http://roost.com
Blog - http://blog.roost.com
Submitted by Paul Francis, CRS on October 22, 2008 - 11:17am.
In recent light of what has taken place with Marc Rasmussen's site and the hijacking by the SAR, I have to agree with Jay above.
Would this be similar to a position that Drew with Zillow and Rudy with Trulia have in monitoring the blogosphere for damage control?
While I've thoroughly enjoyed corresponding with Drew and Rudy in the past on issues that I like to get involved in when it comes to brainwashing attempts, something tells me it will not be as enjoyable with the NAR police monitoring the blogs and reminding us that as REALTORS, we must do and say everything to "Promote the Best Interest of the National Association of REALTORS".
(Drew and Rudy can't use the "Agree with Me and do as I say or we take away your MLS access!!" line.)
"We are figuring (out) what's the best way to do the connection" with others in the social media space, she said, and evaluating how to create a better "feedback loop" for members.
A great way to start off is to begin with a position on how the NAR feels about the SAR takeover of Marc Rasmussen's Sarasota Real Estate site.
That would be a pretty good indicator of things to come IMO.
Paul Francis, CRS
Prudential Americana Group
www.LasVegasRealEstateHome.com
702.592.3058
Submitted by Larry Wright on October 22, 2008 - 3:18pm.
Over the past several years NAR has made too many moves and decisions that I find questionable. So I must add my voice to the sceptical comments above. Whatever their intent, I believe this new position is for the good of NAR and not the REALTORS in the trenches.
Larry Wright
www.nwrealty.com
www.nwrealty.net
Submitted by Jay Thompson on October 22, 2008 - 7:56pm.
I've not been shy about expressing how I feel about some of what the NAR does. I understand people being skeptical, but to not even give it a chance before it's started, to write if off based on a job description that will evolve over time, all seems a bit short-sighted.
Why not wait and see who is selected and at least give him/her a chance?
Jay Thompson
Broker / Owner
Thompson's Realty
Blog: www.PhoenixRealEstateGuy.com
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Submitted by Tony Sena on October 23, 2008 - 10:46am.
I think it is important for NAR to have someone in this position. With what is going on with Marc and SAR, it would good to know what NARs stance is on this situation. Right now, we don't know what NAR is doing or not doing about SARs hostile take over of Marc's website!!!
Tony Sena
North American Realty of Nevada
www.SenaSellsVegas.com
Submitted by Candace Robinson on November 3, 2008 - 10:50am.
I'm thinking it's a position to be filled and the right direction. I agree with Jay in regards to seeing how it unfolds.
Candace Robinson
www.PhoenixHousingBlog.com