Buyers balk at markup on flips
Mood of the Market
By Tara-Nicholle Nelson, Monday, March 15, 2010.
I'm not really sure exactly when investors got such a bad name. Once upon a time, every other person I met wanted to be one. Maybe it was the imprimatur of slick, infomercial-esque get-rich-quickness that kick-started the national anti-real-estate-investor antipathy. It probably didn't help when investors, only a small percentage of whom can accurately be called "flippers," ended up squarely on the wrong end of the foreclosure-crisis finger-pointing.
Probably wrongfully so, as the last numbers I could find -- from 2008 -- showed that only 20 percent of the foreclosures in America at the time were on non-owner-occupied homes, which is disproportionately low, considering that 33 percent of homes in America are owned by investors.
All last year, during the deepest depths of the foreclosure crisis, I saw buyer after buyer get outbid -- or underbid, but still bested -- by cash investors seeking to make the most of the decline in home values. While I felt deeply for the homebuyers who lost out, I also saw how investors played a big role in mopping up the excess inventory that was depressing values, and could appreciate their role in the market's recovery.
Then, in January, the Department of Housing and Urban Development lifted the FHA loan anti-flipping guideline, which had prevented buyers from using an FHA-insured loan to buy a home that had been bought within the previous 90 days.
Now, my buyer clients and I are seeing the maturation of the investor-buy-foreclosure phenomenon, as we see listing after listing that was purchased at foreclosure auction, rehabbed/remodeled/upgraded/primped to within an inch of its life, and put back on the market for resale, at an obvious -- and sometimes steep -- markup.
At this point, I've done this so many times I could script it:
Scene: Buyers enter the house: "Wow -- this is gorgeous. They did a ton of work. Oh my gosh -- look at those appliances. Is that Wolf/Viking/Kenmore Elite (depending on price range)? Gorgeous. All new bathrooms, too?! Distressed bamboo on the floors -- I love this. They made such great choices. We basically wouldn't have to do a thing to move in!"
Buyers leave the house -- "We'd love to make an offer. Will you run the comps for us and give us the background? Ta-ta! Talk to you soon! So excited!!"
I call the buyers -- "OK, well, I've sent you the comparables. This place is actually priced $10,000 below the nearest identical comparable that sold a month ago, and of course that one wasn't remodeled."
Buyers: "Fabulous -- it's totally worth that, at least. Do you think we'll need to offer more than asking to beat out the other buyers? We're OK with doing that -- we'd go up to $20,000 over asking. Oh -- quick question -- are the owners investors?"
Me: "Yes." ...CONTINUED
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Submitted by Sean OToole on March 15, 2010 - 1:29pm.
Great point. Investors at auction take significant risks: no title insurance, no inspections, no financing, and they often have to evict the prior owner. Even with all that margins on the court house steps have narrowed drastically as competition has increased. These investors typically put these homes back on the market in better shape than the banks do and they should be entitled to receive market value for their efforts.
Sean O'Toole
Founder / CEO
ForeclosureRadar.com
ForeclosureTruth.com
Submitted by Michael Studebaker on March 15, 2010 - 5:40pm.
Great points, Tara, couldn't be more true these days.
Ironic, isn't it? in 2003 the same buyer would willingly pay 20-30% more than what the seller paid only a few years prior with NO significant improvements, just appreciation. Now with investors actually spending and improving, the investors get questioned on their markup?
Setting the proper expectations for buyers is key here as always by telling the story as Sean said above. Bidding at the court house steps is not for the faint of heart, and the risk is significant. Most buyers don't want to be in that position, they really want the nirvana that is created by these invaluable investors - a home that has been made livable and is worth competing for.
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Submitted by Bill Fooks on March 16, 2010 - 3:26am.
Bill Fooks
TFT realty Marketing Service
Warwick, RI http://www.fooksteam.com
Great article. I think this attitude is fostered by our government, and supported by the press. Profit is bad. Success is evil. Making money is bad, unless approved by the government. When you hear this enough, you start making decisions about life that are harmful to yourself. This is a shame. On the other hand there is greed. But with proper observation and input from others you can see this immediately. It will be nice to hear from leaders that being successful in a field other than the Government would be a change that could motivate others to take risks, in all fields of endeavors.
Submitted by Jim Hodson on March 17, 2010 - 1:29pm.
The investor / current owner can always say no. The problem then becomes the agents issue because they are the ones to deliver the bad news to both buyer and seller (and waste time and good will doing so when they probably know the answer before they start). It is all about what the market will bear for any period of time. Sometimes putting everyone on a clock and making gradual price reductions periodically makes a big difference in getting seller to their lowest tolerance and buyers to their highest knowing someone else might jump in at a more realistic price.
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