Therapist teaches agents how to cope with real estate loss
People in Real Estate: Sherry Helgoe
By Mary Umberger, Tuesday, May 24, 2011.Sherry Helgoe may be the only marital and family therapist in the country whose website has a page that explains what might happen when you default on your mortgage.
Her practice in Yorba Linda, Calif., is an unusual hybrid of helping clients with the traditional range of personal difficulties -- divorce, bereavement, family dysfunction, etc. -- and real estate-related matters.
Helgoe said she's unaware of any other licensed therapist who has developed her sub-specialty: teaching real estate agents how to communicate better with mortgage borrowers who are at risk of losing their homes.
A therapist since 1995, about a year ago she developed a workshop on the "psychology of the distressed buyer" to help agents understand their clients better in order to help them reach decisions about short sales, foreclosures, or other alternatives for their properties.
Working now for about a year as a consultant to AssetPlanUSA, a short-sale training firm, she has conducted the workshops about 40 times, all over the country, she said.
The workshops focus on applying basic psychological principles to the needs of distressed borrowers -- assessing "primary behavior styles," reading body language, and understanding how this kind of stress can complicate their decision-making.
"We look at the Holmes and Rahe stress scale that I use in my private practice, which helps to measure how much (the foreclosure) stress is affecting their private lives," Helgoe said. "Anything over 150 is considered 'stressed out,' and these people often are well into the 200s."
Such stress tends to disturb their thinking process, she said. Real estate agents are likely to find that it renders their clients very poor listeners -- no matter how carefully an agent explains the distressed-sale process and its alternatives, they're likely to have to repeat it for them later, Helgoe said.
"They have difficulty receiving new information," she said. "(There is) a loss of concentration and their memories are short."
Distressed sales require a different set of interpersonal skills than traditional real estate sales do, she said.
"In conventional sales, people are making money, and you're happy to be moving -- something positive is happening," she said. "Under distressed sales, you're not making any money and you've lost everything you've invested in your home. You're moving for nothing."
Their frustration is intense, Helgoe said.
"I hear people saying in therapy, 'This is the destruction of a dream, and nobody believes me,' " she said.
Before she developed the workshops, Helgoe had some background in real estate matters. In 2006, she began working with agents who were undergoing short-sale training. Her role was to give them suggestions on improved communication and on effective wording of hardship letters seeking mortgage modification.
But it was only a couple of years ago, when listening to clients, that she decided there was a deeper need in the real estate industry to understand what distressed borrowers were going through.
"I would have one client, then I would have three clients, and my graduate students (at Pepperdine University) would have clients who were talking about their financial difficulties," she recalled. "There was so much financial fighting among couples.
"All of a sudden, it was really prevalent," she said. "It just blew up."
The clients complained about difficulties in working with their real estate agents -- their silence at critical moments and unreturned phone calls, she said. Clients would describe their real estate agents as "mean."
"I would tell them, It's not that they're being mean. It's that people don't know how to deal with bad news,' " Helgoe said.
That bad news is particularly difficult at the end of the relationship between the agent and distressed borrower -- when the home, one way or another, is about to be lost, she said.
"Most people hate to be around people who are experiencing grief and loss," she said. "There's this lull (at the end of the process) when agents don't want to talk to these clients because no one wants to say goodbye or bring bad news.
"This is the stage where consistent communication is essential," she said. "This is where you need to call them, whether you have any news or not, to let them know you have a finger on their pulse."
Nonetheless, her seminars also aim to teach agents how to avoid being personally sucked into the black holes of others' personal travails, in this era when foreclosures and short sales are such an everyday event.
"I always ask, 'How many of you (agents) personally know people -- not just through your business -- people who are dealing with distressed property sales?' " Helgoe said. "At least 65 to 70 percent raise their hands.
"I tell them, 'I can see how you guys have stress. You go home and deal with it on a personal level, too. It affects so many areas of your lives,' " she said.
Like therapists, agents can practice coping strategies and stress management that may help them avoid taking home those stresses and dramas, she said. She knows it takes a toll on some agents.
"Some people are task-focused and some people are people-focused," Helgoe said. "The people who are more people-focused tend to take these things home.
"It can weigh heavy on their hearts.".
Mary Umberger is a freelance writer in Chicago.
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Submitted by Joe Loomer on May 24, 2011 - 2:39am.
What a perfect niche to get into these days. In the distressed sales I've dealt with - my short-sale clients have used exactly the same language Ms. Helgoe quotes here.
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Submitted by Brad Bergamini on May 24, 2011 - 1:04pm.
That is what America is all about. Finding a Need and filling it.
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Submitted by Joe Stradcutter on May 24, 2011 - 1:27pm.
For agents or consumers who want more information on the stages of grief and the loss of a person's home, please visit the article I posted at http://shortsalemnpro.com/the-loss-of-your-home-and-stages-of-grief/
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Submitted by Lori Cox on May 24, 2011 - 2:07pm.
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Submitted by Scott Moyes on May 24, 2011 - 2:44pm.
Therapists??? OMG, are you kidding me? If you need a "Therapist" to cope with real estate loss, then you need more than a Therapist! For heck sakes, the only therapy you need is to pull your skirt up and just GET OVER IT!
Submitted by Lori Cox on May 24, 2011 - 2:47pm.
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Having been a psychotherapist prior to becoming a REALTORĀ®, I too, have consistently spoken to my clients, customers and for the last 15 years, facilitated classes and coached agents in listening and watching for the emotional clues in decision making...I believe understanding the impact of emotions during the process of buying/leasing and selling/renting residential real estate is essential to best business practices today.
Emotions are all over the board...not only does the REALTORĀ® need to understand how emotions control decision making or lack there of, but also how emotional decisions can create additional baggage whether it is a home owner hoping to stay in a home that is unaffordable or a buyer purchasing a home that they have fallen in love with and the home has none of the essential features that the buyer needs yet wants. Yes, priorities do change however, I agree, the REALTORĀ® that understands the emotional process of buying as well as selling may empower better decision making among their clients.
Having a counseling session with the potential buyer or seller so all can to gain a better understanding of the emotions, motivations, time frame, etc., is what I believe needs to happen before buyers buy and sellers sell. If an agent can impact their clients by discussing the concept of emotional buying/selling BEFORE making a residential real estate decision, this is an agent that may very well create a relationship of trust and integrity with his/her clients and may be the beginning of a lifetime of transactions with that particular client, their friends, family, and business associates.