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Submitted by Mike Bowler Sr. on February 13, 2012 - 4:40pm.

That was great Brian. Now I hope everyone does not wait for another year to start fixing it. I suggested that Inman Sponsor an all day Virtual Webinar symposium with key players as guests. Let's get to work. I'll help anyway I can. :-)

“Expect the Best” Mike

Mike Bowler Sr. ePRO, CRB, GRI, SRES
Coldwell Banker Hubbell Briarwood
1020 S. Creyts Road, Lansing, MI 48917
Phone: 517-492-3400 Fax: 888-832-6203
email: Mike@MikeBowler.com

 
Submitted by William Metzker on February 13, 2012 - 5:22pm.

I still like the idea of less robust data for syndicators.

 
Submitted by Tina Fine on February 16, 2012 - 9:45am.

Disagree with Brian that innovation comes or will come from publishers. I don't see publishers doing anything but taking profits. Are ZTR sites so spectacular? I think that the MLSs are very capable of innovating, as are other tech companies like Google or Facebook who can enter this space.

 
Submitted by Robert Jurgensen on February 18, 2012 - 6:54am.

Let's face it - when we sold our soul to the devil (realtor.com) that started this ball of wax that has become a monster. Realtor.com is not US - it's a private company NAR hired because they are too inept to run a website. When they gave them most of the profits, instead of paying them to simply operate a web site, they sold us down the river. Then came syndication - our MLS's make money off of that - I for one would like to know where all that money goes?

I stood in a room full of owners/brokers of the major companies, while attending a strategic planning session for our MLS system, in the DC Metro area, some ten years ago when all this started, and told them all this was a big mistake giving away our data - it's OUR intellectual property and the only "bait" we have to get prospects. Now what happens is OUR bait is taken from us and that bigger boat moves further out and lays it's nets - capturing OUR fish with OUR bait and then selling it to us (because almost nothing gets through THEIR nets) for a handsome profit.

Like I said, we sold our soul to the devil. NAR is an incompetent opportunist who is so clueless that they don't even know how our business works. In a world of wisdom, we should have ONE national site, owned by US, paid for by US sending leads to US and not through anyone else. That data belongs to US and should not be shared - we could have local versions, regional versions, state versions and ultimately a nationwide data base that doesn't require US to pay THEM (the company that runs Realtor.com for US)a dime - it should be included in the annual dues and we could opt in and out as needed of any of those versions of the database - the point being it would remain under our control and would belong to us. Instead, we are being sucked dry by a bunch of techies that know nothing about real estate (of course everyone who owns a home "knows" about real estate, right? I'm betting the vendors of realtor.com have some very nice homes!!)

And finally, Zillow and Trulia? Really, a computer determining value with data mined from public sources. Yes, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while but 90% of the time Zillow is not even close to accurate - I'm not just saying that because on EVERY market analysis I run a Zestimate and put it in my briefcase because I know I am going to hear "well, Zillow says my home is worth $XXX,XXX and I then explain how it works and PROVE to them why it if often inaccurate and that there is no substitute, none whatsoever, for the human element of determining value. In fact, the stupid banks even use Zillow to determine value and that sets off a lot of wasted time and effort because the banks don't want to pay an appraiser $450, and now they don't want to pay $75 for BPO's - so they go to Zillow. Well, that has costs them far more than any appraisal or BPO ever would but we all know they are smarter than us and that "them that has the gold, rules" - so, how has that worked out in the past 4-5 years? Not well, so we, the taxpayers, pay for those stupid mistakes as well.

We need to get control of our industry and learn how technology works and why NOT to give away our "intellectual" property. Those words in the listings are OUR WORDS and OUR effort to gather the data and as such they belong to US.

Just saying...

 
Submitted by Vincent Spoto on February 18, 2012 - 9:47am.

Vincent Spoto

Mr Jurgensen, I couldn't agree more with your comment.

I would add that the aggregators also take our listings computerized landing pages and compete directly with us for organic search position on Google, Yahoo, etc.

In other words they use our listings to DIRECTLY compete with us for customers. What other business would allow this?